~~~A theory (anyone wanna bite on this one) (exhaust)
 

We have all laughed recently about the use of the Tornado Air Intake system, and I am not going to get into a big spat about if it works or not, personally, I just don't bite in terms of intake performance, but then again I an idea dawned on me in regards to Exhaust systems and using something similar.

Does anyone bite ? or see where I am going with this,

would it work or help (pretending it could be made perfectly to fit in serveral locations, (after the header) after the Cat coverter? or am dreaming hahha

and if it works who wants to give it a try,

hahah come on Rod, put your name all over this one ;)

Why would you ever need more turbulence for the exhaust?
Best case senerio it gives a muscular exhaust sound! :camaro:
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Ill see what I can do :dunce:

It sounds ok in theory. If the air is moving out of the engine in a spinning motion, it would have less resistance as it travels through the exhaust system. However, the motion works great for water because it has a greater resistance. Air is rather low on the resistance scale, so I don't think it would benefit you much. It is a neat idea though.

True True, I am just curious what it would do to the back pressure, I mean I am thinkin in a perfect world, its gotta have some kinda effect, maybe even by using in the stock headers lol hahah please bear with me, but I am thinkin it could be used to blend the air better from the daisy chained stock header, and then on into the merging point, and then after the Cat, and then the bending points of the main line.

Am i a crazy young man or is it just strange science.

hahahahah come onhere we could go into business here .

All rights reserved hahah jokin

www.aero-turbine.com is that somethign like what you mean? I have no clue whether or not these mufflers work, I dunno that I would spend 200 bucks on something thats as sketchy as it is. I would make up some BS product too and throw around a bunch of "scientific" explanatiosn for why its superior too, so I dunno maybe it works maybe not.

If you could make smoke come out the back of the muffler, and it was spinning around from the turbine, that would look wicked hot.. just waiting for the next Fast & the Furious movie... ha.

Andy

The idea has been done already. I've seen advertisements in the back of car mags selling a kit that comes with a "tornado" style intake device, and it also came with a similar exhaust device. For the low price of $69 :rolleyes:

You know what, I think the "tornado" pieces in the rest of the exhaust system would be completely useless, :nono: simply be cause of the resistance they cause in order to get the air spinning.

BUT, if you put a small one inside each port of the exhaust manifold that might actually help to channel the air like you said. It would (in theory) make a stock exhaust manifold flow smoother, almost like a header. :nod:

I would look at it as just another restriction in flow..otherwise it's snake oil

well with the resistance factor its true, but the pressure or back pressure would have to have a positive effect with the device?

Do we have a science geek in the house? we need some serious mathamatical work done here lol

hahha i swear when I rip out my stock exhaust i am gonna play with this

in all honesty I could see that a turbine set up could potentially work, considering it will be a lot like a river, the inside air is going to be moving much quicker and it would lower resistance if you could speed up the outer air as well so it might work,m although it might not be as effective as you may want. developing on what mgs said, the effect wont be extreme though. if u wanna try it go ahead let us know what you see.

Yeah man, play around with it and let us know. From what I've seen, alot of ppl that post on here are into finding out if crazy ideas like this work. And more importantly, if they work well. :evilgrin:

If it works...or not...we should market the idea and sell it and make up "scientific" explanations for why it works. We would all be rich muwahahahahahhahaha

bzzzzt. The 'advantage' of the tornado in the intake is the swirl to improve combustion. For the exhaust - a smooth laminar flow is 'best'. Any device would simply block the short passage between TWO cats and a muffler (which would 'trip' the flow again anyhoo).

short answer - just get a header and a low-restriction exhaust.

so sayeth - me. (and some aerodynamics classes)

while the intake Tornado is an obvious scam and exhaust tornado up by the head may actually have SOME clout.

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ignore the whole backpressure/resistence idea and just think about what makes power on exhaust systems....the best exhaust is an equal length header. Anyone know why? Because of it's ability to line up the exhaust pulses in perfect order for going through our cat/exhaust. Also because an EL header will produce better scavenging of exhaust gasses. This sort of suction to help pull gas away from the CC really helps more than anything.

Now imagine you had a device that would actually take those pulses and help create a "cyclone" of exhaust pull where the tip of the funnel was the downpipe. The upper rim of the "cyclone" would be reaching up and pulling gas down to spiral even above the top of the device.

Anyone watch how a tornado forms?? It'll start a slow spiral and as it picks up speed the upper crest of the storm will start reaching higher and higher up and pulling down that air. this pulling down effect may aid in exhaust gas scaveging (sp?) (wheres my royal spell checker??).

This is all asuming the device offers little to no resistence in the flow of the exhaust and could actually create a hard enough downforce to suck out the exhaust pulse and help suck in the new intake charge.

p.s. this is all just theory