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hughes412 October-15th-2004 04:48 PM

What is the most powerful NA 2.0
 
Has anyone done the following, and if so what was the cost and how much HP did it give you.

CAI
both cams
4-2-1 header
exhuast
port polished


and is there a packaged head that all you have to do is bolt on?
I am looking for ways to get the most with out forcing. For now!

Phantom Cruiser October-15th-2004 04:57 PM

I've done all that minus the P&P...however my last dyno was in Jan of '03 and a couple of things have changed since then. Last dyno read 120/125 for ~$1000 if that helps.

Roddimus Prime October-15th-2004 05:33 PM

yeah, the P&P will do wonders I'd bet if you remove the VICS/VTCS and do the extrude hone porting. This is what Tripoint does to their motors and they make 250hp NA.....of course they run stand alone EMS and 11.2:1 compression.

Phantom Cruiser October-15th-2004 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by Roddimus Prime
yeah, the P&P will do wonders I'd bet if you remove the VICS/VTCS and do the extrude hone porting. This is what Tripoint does to their motors and they make 250hp NA.....of course they run stand alone EMS and 11.2:1 compression.

Sounds like they have one or two THOUSAND more dollars than me though :crying: :blah:

Roddimus Prime October-15th-2004 09:33 PM

oh hell yeah!! Those motors make 1-2 races TOPS before being completely rebuilt.

I would just stick with 8.5:1CR, forged internals, blanaced and knife-edged crank, EH ported head and intake sans VCTS/VICS, WOMP, 8lb flywheel with good clutch and a full 2.5" race exhaust....enjoy 300+whp for as long as the stock tranny lasts!

rustychops41 October-16th-2004 02:40 PM

Supposedly you could buy one of those Tri-Point motors for about 15 large. 240HP I think

hughes412 October-19th-2004 09:10 AM

That does help, 1k aint to bad. It just takes time and I hate waiting :bonk:

Roddimus Prime October-19th-2004 09:24 AM

you could also get the Haltech for about $1000 and have full controll over your AFR's. Lean it out on map A for more power and turn it down for better economy on Map B..

I saw 14whp and 10lb/ft gained on 87 octane with NO timing adjustments made. Imagine what you'd pick up switching to 93 octane.

hughes412 October-21st-2004 08:03 AM

I thought my 71 442 was bad, I got rid of it because every thing on it was 300.00.
Now I have a car that every thing is a grand! Is it just me or did I go backwards? lol
Once I get my card paid down I can do the haltech. But I wouldn't know where to start with it. Is there any one around my that know how to use them?

Roddimus Prime October-21st-2004 02:40 PM

the actual tuning of the haltech is VERY straightforward. simple use of the arrow keys up and down to adjust fuel at a given load on the table. I have never tuned with one myself but I've playing around with the software and my local dyno shop knows how to use them.


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