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stocker May 31, 2002 07:39 PM

urethane shifter bushings
 
I read the post in the for sale section for kartboy's urethane shifter bushings. If there is one thing I would like my protege to do, it's shift like my brothers prelude. tight, notchy, and positive. Does anyone have feedback that the urethane bushings will help achieve this?

I know the B&M SS will help shorten the throw, but I am not sold on the short shifters yet. A little $20 mod to improve feel is not bad money spent.

Stocker

Tom@kartboy May 31, 2002 11:30 PM

you are correct. the shifter bushings will make the shifter have that "Snick Snick" into each gear. this is our best seller for the Subarus. and at 20.00 you cant go wrong :)

try this next time you are in your car.
put it in first gear. then push forward a bit more. this extra give is what the shifterbushing will get rid of. a more positive direct shift.


install is about 15 min, heck i think it takes longer to get the jack and jackstands under the car.

tom@kartboy.com

Traveler Jun 1, 2002 11:27 AM

I think that this is the route I'm going to go. I'll get a set of your shifter bushings and then make my own short shifter. I'm just going to pull out the factory shifter, cut the lower end, put in about an extra 1/2" of rod, and weld it back together. Then I'll take that stupid wieght off the top and put a shorter extension piece on. Should save a few bucks and will be better than a B&M because it will have better bushings!

Sir Nuke Jun 1, 2002 12:13 PM


Originally posted by Traveler
I think that this is the route I'm going to go. I'll get a set of your shifter bushings and then make my own short shifter. I'm just going to pull out the factory shifter, cut the lower end, put in about an extra 1/2" of rod, and weld it back together. Then I'll take that stupid wieght off the top and put a shorter extension piece on. Should save a few bucks and will be better than a B&M because it will have better bushings!
by adding the material to the bottom and taking it off the top...you will certainly achieve the same thing...but have a BETTER shifter than the B&M? no way....you will have multiple pieces welded together...thus a wink link....the B&M shifter is ONE solid piece...and as for its bushings....they are top notch....your bushings may feel the same for a while...but the urathane will wear faster than the oillite bushings of the B&M.

but hey...you are only spending $20....ya get what you pay for.

:{D

Tom@kartboy Jun 1, 2002 05:28 PM


Originally posted by Sir Nuke


by adding the material to the bottom and taking it off the top...you will certainly achieve the same thing...but have a BETTER shifter than the B&M? no way....you will have multiple pieces welded together...thus a wink link....the B&M shifter is ONE solid piece...and as for its bushings....they are top notch....your bushings may feel the same for a while...but the urathane will wear faster than the oillite bushings of the B&M.

but hey...you are only spending $20....ya get what you pay for.

:{D

sorry wrong bushings :) take a look at the picture again.These go on tyhe shift arm that connects to the transmission stabalizer bar. not the shift lever itself.

we had a B&M shifter in our MP5 for exactly three days. i hated it
the shifts were horrid. we modified a stock shifter a few times till we finally got the numbers how we wanted. now they are being CNC'd for your consumption :)

As for welding.. All our products are hand TIG welded by myself. i dont trust anyone else with this task.
Take a look at our Bio page. i think were more than qualified for the task :)
thanks
tom

Sir Nuke Jun 2, 2002 01:12 AM


Originally posted by Tom@kartboy


sorry wrong bushings :) take a look at the picture again.These go on tyhe shift arm that connects to the transmission stabalizer bar. not the shift lever itself.

we had a B&M shifter in our MP5 for exactly three days. i hated it
the shifts were horrid. we modified a stock shifter a few times till we finally got the numbers how we wanted. now they are being CNC'd for your consumption :)

As for welding.. All our products are hand TIG welded by myself. i dont trust anyone else with this task.
Take a look at our Bio page. i think were more than qualified for the task :)
thanks
tom

tom, I don't doubt our abilities....or travelers....however....if you take a stock shifter...cut the piece off the bottom where the bushings go, in order to make a true short throw shifter out of it...then add a piece in there by welding it up....I don't care who does it....or how good you are....its NOT a solid piece...and its NOT going to be as strong as the one piece, solid shifter lever that you have with the B&M....just not gonna happen. ..... :{D

and I have the B&M...and love it...its nice and smoothe...percise...and an incredible improvement over the stocker.

Aaron Jun 2, 2002 12:02 PM

i like the B&M as well. much better than stock and also does the "snick snick". will changing these bushings do anything for those with the short shifter already?

Traveler Jun 2, 2002 03:18 PM

Well, if you can break the shifter after it's welded, you are going to break internal parts in the transaxle too. You are shifting WAY too hard. I had a tubular shifter that I custom made for another car that I never broke and it wasn't as strong as a solid one.

Sir Nuke Jun 2, 2002 08:13 PM

maybe not.....To each their own. :{D

Hawkeye Jun 2, 2002 10:09 PM


Originally posted by Aaron
i like the B&M as well. much better than stock and also does the "snick snick". will changing these bushings do anything for those with the short shifter already?
Yes, they do. I had the B&M shifter already installed. Today I put the Kartboy bushings on, and they really do make a difference. The B&M did shorten the throw and firm up the "feel" a bit, but the bushings make the shift feel more definite and mechanical. It's a very nice feel!

Aaron Jun 3, 2002 06:53 AM

is the install pretty simple?

Hawkeye Jun 3, 2002 07:43 AM

yeah, the install's pretty easy. You have to put the car up on jack stands first. Then you crawl under there, undo one nut that holds a large washer that holds the original bushing in. Then you can slide the whole assembly over and pop out the old bushing. Then, there's a small shaft that goes through the center of the old bushing, remove it. Put the two halves of the new bushing in, put the shaft you removed a minute a go in through the new bushing, and slide it back onto the bolt. Then, but the washer back, and tighten the nut. Lower the car and you're done!

Tom@kartboy Jun 3, 2002 08:37 AM

Yup.
As easy as that :p

Glad you like them
Tom

proman Jun 3, 2002 11:05 AM

how come it don't say they are urethane shifter bushings on your website? just wanna make sure that's all. :D

Tom@kartboy Jun 3, 2002 06:01 PM

it dosent say urethane but it a 85A durometer urethane



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tom


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