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unleashedzx2 July-16th-2003 12:07 AM

Does anyone know where I can get the MazdaSpeed LSD?

toucci July-16th-2003 02:46 AM

err... a mazda dealer? :p

unleashedzx2 July-16th-2003 10:36 AM

How much do you think it woulld run me, i'm asking cuz I dont have time to go to a dealer until next week?

Installshield July-17th-2003 12:29 AM

The dealer gets them for about $400 USD from what I remember, so I would guess you could get one for between $500-600...A bargain by torsen LSD standards...

unleashedzx2 July-24th-2003 05:33 PM

I wanna hear from any one here who is putting some good amount of ponies under the hood, how did you improve on these shitty Mazda trannies from not breaking?

Installshield July-24th-2003 08:53 PM


Originally posted by unleashedzx2
I wanna hear from any one here who is putting some good amount of ponies under the hood, how did you improve on these shitty Mazda trannies from not breaking?

This is were things are getting skewed and misleading...No one on this board that I know of has put enough power/torque into a G-15M-R 5-speed gearbox to destroy it becuase of that...Most of the people having gearbox problems had relatively stock engines with the exception of a few bolt-ons and THEY destroyed the box...IMO it is shifting habits that are limiting the gearbox so far for the most part. It is still unclear to me who coined the fact that the box can only handle 225whp or whatever and I have never seen anyone on this board with a 225whp FS/G15M-R...The aluminum case is definately not the strongest, and there are some potential weaknesses with the spider gears of the diff...but other than that it is fine...The notion of weak syncros and shift forks have little to do with the maximum amount of torque it can handle and more to do with how much bullshit it can take from a poor driver...Shift it like an idiot and chances are it will break, regardless of whether it is stock or heavily modified...

In comparison there are quite a few 2nd gen. Probe GT owners with upper 285whp numbers and nearly that much torque, on a gearbox that is for the most part identical...same internals, same ratios, similar aluminum case...

I don't know why everyone is worrying about it so much, especially when none of us have nearly enough power to make it an issue...I am just simply pointing out that a lot of these issues about gearbox strength are more related to driver abuse than engine output...

b_real45 July-24th-2003 09:21 PM

How strong is the auto tranny (shiftmatic)?

unleashedzx2 July-24th-2003 11:44 PM

I'm only aiming for about 200-250 whp just as a sleeper on Boost, just asking cuz i wasnt sure if i might break something cuz of that. i'm a good shifter though, i shift softly but quickly with the flick of the wrist. Also i heard with a short shifter, do u wear out the synchros quicker or is this also of poor driving?

Gregersonsalvag July-25th-2003 06:55 PM


Originally posted by Installshield



This is were things are getting skewed and misleading...No one on this board that I know of has put enough power/torque into a G-15M-R 5-speed gearbox to destroy it becuase of that...Most of the people having gearbox problems had relatively stock engines with the exception of a few bolt-ons and THEY destroyed the box...IMO it is shifting habits that are limiting the gearbox so far for the most part. It is still unclear to me who coined the fact that the box can only handle 225whp or whatever and I have never seen anyone on this board with a 225whp FS/G15M-R...The aluminum case is definately not the strongest, and there are some potential weaknesses with the spider gears of the diff...but other than that it is fine...The notion of weak syncros and shift forks have little to do with the maximum amount of torque it can handle and more to do with how much bullshit it can take from a poor driver...Shift it like an idiot and chances are it will break, regardless of whether it is stock or heavily modified...

In comparison there are quite a few 2nd gen. Probe GT owners with upper 285whp numbers and nearly that much torque, on a gearbox that is for the most part identical...same internals, same ratios, similar aluminum case...

I don't know why everyone is worrying about it so much, especially when none of us have nearly enough power to make it an issue...I am just simply pointing out that a lot of these issues about gearbox strength are more related to driver abuse than engine output...


he probe uses a MTx75 transmission which is significantly stronger than the G series transmission.

toucci July-25th-2003 06:59 PM


Originally posted by unleashedzx2
I'm only aiming for about 200-250 whp just as a sleeper on Boost, just asking cuz i wasnt sure if i might break something cuz of that. i'm a good shifter though, i shift softly but quickly with the flick of the wrist. Also i heard with a short shifter, do u wear out the synchros quicker or is this also of poor driving?
the syncros only have to do with making the layshaft match the speed of the gear you want to enter. The short shifter has no effect on that. I presume if you are used to double clutching with the regular one and do it less effectively with the short shifter it would cause more wear on the syncros.

UCSBgeek July-25th-2003 07:49 PM


Originally posted by Gregersonsalvag



he probe uses a MTx75 transmission which is significantly stronger than the G series transmission.

wrong

Installshield July-26th-2003 01:14 PM


Originally posted by toucci


the syncros only have to do with making the layshaft match the speed of the gear you want to enter. The short shifter has no effect on that. I presume if you are used to double clutching with the regular one and do it less effectively with the short shifter it would cause more wear on the syncros.

The short throw shifter is directly related to this...syncros don't just work on a down shift, and not that many people that I know of double clutch while upshifting... A STS will allow you to upshift much faster and make the syncros work harder in order to match the dog teeth before the gear is selected...

Installshield July-26th-2003 01:17 PM


Originally posted by Chastan


wrong

That is what I thought, at least for 2nd gen Probe GT's...

And FWIW There are just as many shift fork problems with stock Probe GT's/MX-6's/626 V6 as we have...and I didn't think anything was significantly stronger...

Gregersonsalvag July-27th-2003 01:20 PM


Originally posted by Chastan


wrong

Thats why the zx2 owners did'nt get the tranny cause it was the mtx75. Its the same as the Focus.

UCSBgeek July-27th-2003 01:55 PM


Originally posted by Gregersonsalvag


Thats why the zx2 owners did'nt get the tranny cause it was the mtx75. Its the same as the Focus.

You're not making any sense to me.... but the probe didn't use the MTX75 transmission.


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