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gcs118 September-15th-2003 02:38 PM

First of all, damaster, you need to calm down yourself. Screaming at me isn't the way to tell me to relax. Yeah I was pissed off when I wrote my last statement.

And you want me to feel your shifters? Well since I have the B&M and Kartboy bushings, it isn't necessary because I experience it myself. It IS normal, it's called physics. You can't do much about that, sorry guys. It's not like this weird feeling that happens once every so often makes the car impossible to drive or even harder. No more complaining :p

glyph_99es September-15th-2003 04:03 PM

If the shifter is not working the same as the stock shifter, I think there is definitely a problem.

However, it sounds like only one phone call has been made to B&M. All of you should call them, and report back here. If they realize that these reports are making it onto boards being seen by lots of people (just look at the # of views), then people are going to stop buying their product. I know that I am seriously questioning it.

damaster September-15th-2003 06:23 PM


Originally posted by gcs118
First of all, damaster, you need to calm down yourself. Screaming at me isn't the way to tell me to relax. Yeah I was pissed off when I wrote my last statement.

And you want me to feel your shifters? Well since I have the B&M and Kartboy bushings, it isn't necessary because I experience it myself. It IS normal, it's called physics. You can't do much about that, sorry guys. It's not like this weird feeling that happens once every so often makes the car impossible to drive or even harder. No more complaining :p

I was angry because your comment was very unhelpful and very unconstructive! I really still don't think its normal and perhaps you are not experiencing the same behavior with your shifter as we are. If you're not, then there's no need for you to check back on this thread. If you are experiencing the same thing, which is unlikely because if you were you wouldn't say its 'normal', then please let us know if you've found a solution or progressed towards any resolution.

damaster September-15th-2003 06:29 PM


Originally posted by glyph_99es
If the shifter is not working the same as the stock shifter, I think there is definitely a problem.

However, it sounds like only one phone call has been made to B&M. All of you should call them, and report back here. If they realize that these reports are making it onto boards being seen by lots of people (just look at the # of views), then people are going to stop buying their product. I know that I am seriously questioning it.

good point glyph: I think we should all call B&M and let them know about this problem. Is it possible that a certain batch of shifters they produced were defective or perhaps they recently changed something in the design that has unexpected adverse effects?

Here's their contact info, for all those wanting to reach them:
For B&M Customer Service, call:
1-818-882-6422 - Hours: 8am - 12pm and 1pm - 5pm (all times are Pacific Standard Time)

I just tried calling right now (4:25pm Pacific Standard Time) and the recording says their offices are closed, so I will try again tomorrow.

defchino September-15th-2003 07:28 PM


Originally posted by glyph_99es
However, it sounds like only one phone call has been made to B&M. All of you should call them, and report back here. If they realize that these reports are making it onto boards being seen by lots of people (just look at the # of views), then people are going to stop buying their product. I know that I am seriously questioning it.
I totally agree with this. Even though I would be surprised if they took any sort of action, we should at least try this. So PLEASE everyone who is experiencing this problem, phone them at the number above and express your unhappiness. The more people they hear from, the more likely they are to offer a solution.


Originally posted by gcs118
Well since I have the B&M and Kartboy bushings, it isn't necessary because I experience it myself. It IS normal, it's called physics. You can't do much about that, sorry guys. It's not like this weird feeling that happens once every so often makes the car impossible to drive or even harder.
I'm not a moron, I understand that we have sacrificed some leverage to acheive a shorter shift, and I understand that it takes more effort and makes for a notchier feel - But I am telling you there IS a problem here. I don't understand how you can make this judgement without actually FEELING the problem that we are experiencing. Is like if I were to tell you that your air conditioning doesn't cool your car down enough - how would I know unless i sat in your car and FELT it? And by the way, we are not "complaining" we are trying to determine the best course of action to get our PROBLEM solved. You don't seem to be experiencing this problem, so there isn't really much fo you to contribute.

gcs118 September-15th-2003 07:59 PM

You replaced a piece of metal with one almost exactly the same. I mean how much can actually go wrong? Maybe I don't have your problem, or maybe it isn't as extreme, there are tons of variables. But I'm asking, are you guys all automotive experts? Maybe it is a side effect you hadn't planned on or heard about and it is normal, that's all I was saying. Don't get so worked up man.

damaster September-16th-2003 07:31 AM


Originally posted by gcs118
You replaced a piece of metal with one almost exactly the same. I mean how much can actually go wrong? Maybe I don't have your problem, or maybe it isn't as extreme, there are tons of variables. But I'm asking, are you guys all automotive experts? Maybe it is a side effect you hadn't planned on or heard about and it is normal, that's all I was saying. Don't get so worked up man.
When it gets hot, it becomes stiff and extremely difficult to shift. It becomes so stiff that when pushed to the right or the left in neutral it remains in that position. You really think this is NORMAL behavior for a ~$250 "piece of metal"?!?! You don't need to be an "automotive expert" to figure that out!

If you're just trying to increase your post count with ridiculously useless posts, please do it on another thread thread because we're trying to find a solution to our problem on this thread, which you are obviously not helping with at all. And like defchino said, we're not "complaining", we're trying to resolve this issue, and that's why we all turned to this forum!

gcs118 September-16th-2003 12:37 PM


Originally posted by damaster
It becomes so stiff that when pushed to the right or the left in neutral it remains in that position.
Mine does this, too. It's called get some muscles you pussy. lol :D

defchino September-16th-2003 12:52 PM


Originally posted by gcs118
Mine does this, too. It's called get some muscles you pussy. lol :D
Seriously man, theres no point to you being here and posting useless crap like this - its not productive. Do you really thing B&M would design a shifter that makes griding and squeaking noises when your car reaches operating temperature?

I'm not calling myself an automotive expert - thats why I'm here, there is a lot of experience on this board. I think everyone has come for advice on what to do about this problem - not to be called a PUSSY.

I'm telling you, I'm not a moron - I understand mechanical advantage, I understand transmissions get warm and things expand and you are more likely to feel this change with a short shifter - but I really believe that what I am experiencing is not within the normal design parameters of this product. Either way, other members of this board should hear about this and take it into consideration when they are buying a SS kit.

gcs118 September-16th-2003 01:18 PM


Originally posted by defchino
Seriously man, theres no point to you being here and posting useless crap like this - its not productive.
And this was productive how... ?:rolleyes:

I think I've made my point, hypocrite.

defchino September-16th-2003 01:24 PM

Whatever man... you're a waste of time, I'm not going to resort to name calling - but thanks for making this thread entertaining.

Originally posted by gcs118
And this was productive how... ?:rolleyes:

I think I've made my point, hypocrite.

For everyone who cares - I'm going to try torquing that bolt (at the bottom of the lever) to factory spec (mentioned above in this thread) whenever I get a chance. I don't think this will work but I will keep you posted.

jjac28 September-16th-2003 01:55 PM

call the company and find out what the hell is going....the stock shifter doesnt behave like that!

damaster September-16th-2003 02:03 PM


Originally posted by gcs118
Mine does this, too. It's called get some muscles you pussy. lol :D
Get off this thread loser... you're just as bad as the troll on this thread: http://www.srtforums.com/forums/show...threadid=15277

damaster September-16th-2003 02:04 PM


Originally posted by defchino
For everyone who cares - I'm going to try torquing that bolt (at the bottom of the lever) to factory spec (mentioned above in this thread) whenever I get a chance. I don't think this will work but I will keep you posted.
I tried loosening my bolt as well, but it didn't solve the problem. Let us know what happens with yours.

damaster September-16th-2003 02:09 PM


Originally posted by gcs118
Mine does this, too. It's called get some muscles you pussy. lol :D
This is exactly what I meant when I said gcs118 is just trying to increase his post count with ridiculously useless posts... and now he'll post another one calling me a hypocrite :rolleyes:


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