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shinzen September-20th-2003 10:32 AM

Possible noob question
 
What's the max horsepower anyone is pulling (dyno pls) without going forced induction- I have put together my wishlist and wanted to find out if anyone has done anything like it- remember wishlist, not done yet is where I am at.......
Here is what I am thinking....
Exhaust/Racing Beat 449 racingbeat.com 4.7hp/5lb/ft

Intake/AEM Short Ram 172.50/Free Shipping coximport.com 5hp?-8hp

MSD Ignition 199.99 jcwhitney.com
MSD Coil/blaster 2 49.99 jcwhitney.com

Anthony Woodford Header 375/499 awrracing.com 5-10?
Fuel Rail n/a

Short Shifter 179.99 shaneracing.com
Unothodox Pulley 195 Corksport.com 8hp-15hp

Unorthodox Flywheel 9lbs 539 unorthodoxracing.com

FS/ZE Intake runner 610 Corksport.com ?
FS/ZE Pistons 180 Corksport.com ?
Mazdaspeed Cams 389 shaneracing.com 18hp
Theoretical FS/ZE Conver. total 1179/Parts 1300/labor See above 40 ponies?

Haltec full ecu control 1200
CAM GEAR 299 Tripointengineering.com 5??

Cost for HP alone Totals (theoretical) 45-52 hp increase
1620.5 Total hp 175-182 hp vs 130 stock possibly more

shinzen September-20th-2003 10:35 AM

forgot- i say theoretical- i dont believe everything I read:D

Phantom Cruiser September-20th-2003 11:10 AM

and in real life:

CAI
spark plug wires
intake & exhaust cams
4-2-1 header
cat-back exhaust

125 HP to the front wheels:eek:

shinzen September-21st-2003 11:24 AM

So phantom, what made you decide on the bosal 4-2-1 header instead of the awr or autoexe? reality sucks, but only money is stopping hp...... are you looking at the jspec piston swap as well?

beach doc January-4th-2004 11:08 AM

Most of those HP gains are based on being ceterus parabus (all things being equal). In other words, it's hard to say what the combination will do. For example, by itself the exhaust may only net 5hp. However, with the air intake and header on, it may contribute to a 10hp gain (due to a better breathing engine) on top of whatever gains are gotten out of the intake and header. Then again, the combination may actually decrease the gains. I don't know for sure, but I'd love to see a dynotest on some of the combinations.

sidpro5 January-5th-2004 11:54 PM

^^^as would i. and probably many others. it would be great to take the guesswork out of the equation. then again, that's half the "fun".....

Phantom Cruiser January-6th-2004 11:42 AM


Originally posted by shinzen
So phantom, what made you decide on the bosal 4-2-1 header instead of the awr or autoexe? reality sucks, but only money is stopping hp...... are you looking at the jspec piston swap as well?
i'm not sure what headers were available at the time i ordered mine. the bosal took some wrangling, but we made it work. i'm not looking at any thing else for the car at this time...we have a bigger project in the works:D

BlueWolfCry January-8th-2004 05:51 PM

your addition is wrong, the 130 hp manufactures claim is base horsepower(bhp) and the dyno results on the aftermarket parts you're talking about is wheelhorsepower(whp), stock 2.0 runs about mid 90's whp

Phantom Cruiser January-9th-2004 01:59 PM


Originally posted by BlueWolfCry
your addition is wrong, the 130 hp manufactures claim is base horsepower(bhp) and the dyno results on the aftermarket parts you're talking about is wheelhorsepower(whp), stock 2.0 runs about mid 90's whp
well...then i'm glad i got 102fwhp out of mine (stock);)

macdaddyslomo January-22nd-2004 07:09 PM

instead of spending $1620 and doing ALL that work...save another $600 and get the HIBOOST kit....you will get way more hp and im talking REAL,proven results....


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