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New TSB for 2/7/03 Cold Engine Rattle Noise
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01-004/03 2001-2003 PROTEGE/PROTEGE5 - RATTLING NOISE AT 1000-3000 RPM COLD ENGINE APPLICABLE MODEL(S)/VINS 2001-2003 Protege (2.0L FS only) 2002-2003 Protege5 DESCRIPTION Some customers may experience an engine rattle noise under light to moderate acceleration with engine coolant temperatures below 65 C (149 F) and engine RPMs between 1000 and 2900 RPM. The noise is the result of the intentional swirl effect that is generated when the Variable Tumble Control System (VTCS) plates in the intake manifold are closed. Swirl accelerates the burn of the air/fuel mixture which reduces emissions when the engine is cold. The noise does not have a negative effect on the engine, and disappears as soon as coolant temperature reaches 65 C (149 F). There is a counter-measure to help reduce the noise in order to improve customer satisfaction. Customers having this concern should have their vehicle repaired using one of the following procedures: REPAIR PROCEDURE Verify customer concern. Check vehicle VIN range: From VIN JM1BJ2***1*400001 to JM1BJ2***2*551281, go to step 3. From VIN JM1BJ2***2*551282 to JM1BJ2***3*644493, go to step 4. Replace the VTCS delay valve, then proceed to step 4. Reprogram the PCM using WDS (Version B22 or later), verify the correct calibration from the table below: Year/Tranmssion File Name New Calibration P/N 2001 MTX DXAGBT0 1L2U-AA 2001 ATX DXAGAS0 1L2U-BA 2002 MTX QKMABB0 2ALU-EA 2002 MTX QKMABB0 2ALU-EA 2002 ATX QKAABA0 2ALU-FA 2002 ATX QKAABA0 2ALU-FA 2002 ATX QKBA7A0 2ALU-GA 2003 MTX QOAMCB0 3ALU-JB 2003 ATX QOAADA0 3ALU-KB 2003 ATX QOAB8C0 3ALU-LB Install revised PCM calibration sticker (9999-95-AMDC 97 available through MStore) in appropriate position (next to vehicle emissions label) with the calibration P/N provided in the table above. Verify repair. PART(S) INFORMATION Part Number Description Qty. Notes N23613980A Delay Valve 1 Application: All 2001 Model Year & 2002 model year built on and before November 5, 2001 WARRANTY INFORMATION NOTE: This information applies to verified customer complaints on vehicles covered under normal warranty. Refer to the SRT microfiche for warranty term information. Delay Valve Replacement and PCM Reprogram Warranty Type A Symptom Code 82 Damage Code 9W Part Number Main Cause N236 13 980A Quantity 1 Operation Number / Labor Hours: XX444XR1 / 0.8 PCM Reprogram Warranty Type A Symptom Code 82 Damage Code 9W Part Number Main Cause ****18881 Quantity 0 Operation Number / Labor Hours: XX444XR2 / 0.8 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- :) :) |
faq updated
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Since your allready on it i wont post anymore tsbs didnt know you had a whole webpage full of em =)
I think ill just look at your site in stead of ESI its easier to look at |
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Funny how people moaned and bitched about this problem on the boards for months and months, yet when there's finally a fix nobody seems to care. Anyway, thanks for the info. Much appreciated!
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I have the fix, it helped a little bit, but the noise is still almost as loud and almost as annoying. So basically it didn't work and my car was in the shop 3 or 4 different times to get that result. I'm moving to the school of thought that says unplug the damn thing. That is the only way I guess I will find any peace.
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my solution:
1) turn on the car. 2) Turn on the music 3) let the car idle for at least 30sec-1min (YOU SHOULD ALWAYS DO THIS ANYWAYS) 4) drive to wherever you need to go and make sure to keep rpms under 3k untill the temperature needle stops rising. 5) after needle stops, ZOOM-ZOOM:D noise? what noise? |
If you unplug it, you WILL get a CEL. I'm going to permanently fix mine and get rid of that damn rattle to boot.
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I have an appointment friday to have this and the clutch chatter fixed.
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Get ready for a big surprise when they "fix" it.
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Originally posted by Traveler If you unplug it, you WILL get a CEL. I'm going to permanently fix mine and get rid of that damn rattle to boot. But if you unplug the electrical connector on the solenoid which activates the vacuum diaphram...hello CEL. Good to see you back Traveler, I'm drooling over those headers of yours. |
I'm taking mine in Saturday. Does anyone have any good news concerning this. So far, it's not sounding too good...
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Originally posted by Carlos He might have meant that he would unplug the vacuum diaphram that activates the VTCS plates. I've been running like this forever now with no check engine light. |
Rattle update
Ive been trying to update my P5's PCM for 2 days now upgraded the WDS 3 times and unable to upgrade to this new calibration. Called tech line they talked to the mazda engineers who said that the Calibration files to update the PCM will not be available for a week or 2 DOH!
I spent over an hour trying to figure out what the hell was up when the WDS told me my pcm was up to date with an old calibration # So anyway if you guys want to get it updated id wait till i post the damn things avaliable =) |
Re: Rattle update
Originally posted by chevywolf2 Ive been trying to update my P5's PCM for 2 days now upgraded the WDS 3 times and unable to upgrade to this new calibration. Called tech line they talked to the mazda engineers who said that the Calibration files to update the PCM will not be available for a week or 2 DOH! I spent over an hour trying to figure out what the hell was up when the WDS told me my pcm was up to date with an old calibration # So anyway if you guys want to get it updated id wait till i post the damn things avaliable =) |
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