New oil filter choice for you...
 

FIY, you can use a honda S2000 oil filter on your FS motor. Very, very good oil filter.
HTH

what makes the honda s2000 filter better than the mazda filter or valvoline for that matter?!?! Just because it's on a sportscar doesn't make it a beter part.

I've taken many oil filters apart. I've taken the OEM 3G protege filter apart, and found it to be very inferior.

I'm sure there are other oil filters that will work well, like for example the Vet unit works. But, the S2000 oil filter found on 2004 models is made in Japan and is a very well built unit worth my $6.00.

you haven't mentioned what makes the mazda filter inferior to the s2k filter....what is it exactly that you saw that made you say it's bad?

p.s. I've worked as a mechanic at the S.E.'s largest quicklube for almost 2 years...I know a few things about filters, just wondering what you're basing this on.

the number of filtering elements i.e. the actual filtering capacity is smaller and the over all construction of the unit is poor.
The S2000 unit was designed to flow upto 9K RPM.
Next time I do my oil change I'll take some snap shots...

My engine occasionally used to rattle for a few seconds after cranking, making me cringe. I posted a thread on this and got mostly guesses for answers. My best guess is that the valvetrain was dry. After installing a Bosch filter the problem went away. Maybe some filters leak down more than others when the engine sits overnight, and it takes a few seconds to get the oil up top. So I'm sticking with Bosch.

Mazda OEM filters are usually good quality, otherwise a Purolator would be OK. I would use the V6 oil filters however. Don't know how those compare to an S2000

I use the Bosch V6 filter. It has almost the same filtering as the Mobil 1 filter for half the price. The construction is the same from what I have read but the difference is the Mobil 1 uses a synthetic filter material and the Bosch does not.

now THESE are educated comments about why a filter is actually better than another filter.

The ability of engine to rev to 9K has no bearing on the oil filter. The oil pump only puts out the required amount of pressure regardless....it may hit full pressure at 2K rpms...after that it stays sedate.

geez with that kind of logic maybe we need to get motorcycle oil filters....they rev to 11-12K + :D...only filter i've really heard bad things about is FRAM....

There's a Wix filter for a V6 626 in my P5. :) It fits perfectly, and since it holds a little more oil, I can fit a full 4 quarts of oil in my car now. :)

I've posted on this before. A purolator gets that oil lite off faster.The mazda oem filter is made by tennaco-an oil company from years back. I agree --it is NOT the best. Oil drains back too much in them. The bosch filter is IDENTICAL to the $1.97 wal mart supertec filter. made by champion labs-who makes bosch, mobil 1 walmart, valvoline, lee, champ and most oil change places filters. TOO LITTLE filter material in the champ labs filters and it doesn't turn the oil lite off fast enough (RATTLE RATTLE RATTLE). And speaking of motorcycle filters, ALL japanese cycles can use, and many do, the v-6 mazda filter. So you do have a motorcycle filter on your pro. BUT SO WHAT-as long as it filters--unless your pride/ego is hurt. ONE LAST THING. Maxda was one of three car manufactures to give a QUALITY AWARD to purolator. Take that to mazda if they try and tell you that your pro blew up because of the filter. This is on the purolator web site...www.pureoil.com. HAPPY FILTERING

just some FYI honda now sources their OTC filters from fram.
my 400cc bike has a larger media than the 4cyl OEM mazda filter, i thought that was a little comical:eek:

paulp, the supplier of the OEM filters changes on a somewhat often basis.

i think that's the one we got...i can't remember exactly, but the filter is about twice as large (long) as the oem p5 one but it still fits perfectly. the guy at the auto parts store did not want to pull out extra filters for us to look at because in his astute opinion:

1) we did not own the 'other' car
2) all we have is a p5
3) the p5 doesn't <hick voice>make more than 80 hp at the wheels so why would we need a bigger filter</hick voice>

:rolleyes: gotta love autozone...

Dude you live in OK.. aren't you used to this by now??? lol

yeah, and thankfully we still have all our teeth so we just smile and say "y'all gimme the biggest darn filter ya got there!":D

Ucsb geek-as far as I know,there is only one supplier for the factory filter and one for the oem . IF what you say is true about different suppliers,THAT to me would be more reason to buy a purolator(or wix etc. etc.).You would know what you got each time

whats the part number for the V6 filters you're using?

PL14620 on the Purolator PureOne. That's the longer V6 filter, works fine on the 2.0 FS.

Hello,

I would like know if the V6 oil filter fit on 1,6 engin

thank

seb

thanks GNO

There have been several supplier changes for Mazda OEM filters. The current one no longer fits my end-cap filter wrench and has a different part # than did earlier filters.
Chris

Go the the parts store and look up the P/N (any manufacturer) for your car and for the 2.0L Protege. They'd probably be the same. If so, then it should work. The other thing to check would be to see if theres extra clearance and the end of the current filter.

Thanks for the info on the honda s2000 oil filter. I changed my oil Saturday and tried the Honda S2000 oil filter. You are right, it seems to be better quility than OEM. It is also oversized with holds a little more oil which is always a good thing. I have been checking for leaks.....and so far looks like a great fit. Options are Great! once again thanks

Why would Mazda make such a small filter for the car anyways? A larger filter can hold much more crap before clogging.

Also, is there a way to prefill the filter before installing it so the engine gets oil pressure faster after an oil change? This filter is sideways on the engine block.

Yes, just pour oil into the filter before installing it. Don't fill it up all the way, just about 3/4 and then let the media soaks up oil, it'll drop to below half and you'd be able to install it without dripping fresh oil.

So, let me get this right. A 626 V6 filter works or any Mazda V6 filter fits right? And, a Vette filter works? And now someone is saying an S2000 filter works? Well, Honda's OEM Filters are great so i would more than likely buy an OEM S2000 filter over any of the others. Oh, and are the fram tough guard filters better than their regular ones? I was always taught to pre-oil a filter before installing it.

geez guys the protege oil filter is the same as the 13b rotaries and they out rev a S2k any day, i have seen 1400hp rotaries with the stock oil filter.

Chris, you're arguing against a wall..... some people just feel cooler having an "S2K" part on their car.

ooh, maybe a sparkplug might fit too...then we'll get 120 hp per liter just like them....or maybe it'll give the car V-TEC...:D ...a good quality filter is all you need...Fram's are crap, just use OEM....don't even really need a V-6 filter..the stocker works just fine:rolleyes:

yea your right

My experience with Mazda filters is limited but I do know a great deal about Honda filters. I'll try to distinguish what I know firsthand and what I've picked up through reading or word of mouth.

First, the earlier point about oil filter brand names versus the actual oil filter manufacturer do change. And frequently. Alot of the common aftermarket filters will change manufacturers every couple years. This happened a couple time over the last 6-8 years with Purolator and Wix. So while what you're buying might have been top notch a couple years ago, you could be using crap now, even though it's the same brand. This should sound familiar to anyone who remembers when Fram was a top quality filter (20+ years ago).

Second OEM doesn't mean better, or even satisfactory in some cases. Honda used to have a very nice filter. Then they started sourcing filters from Fram and Filtech. I've personally cut these filters open...and while they're better specs then off the shelf Fram, they're not as good as they once were. It's a bean counter move...if they drop their cost by .15 and raise the retail price a dime, they're making a quarter more per filter. That's alot of quarters.
In the last year, Honda has changed their oil filter design to a smaller, Mazda similar piece. It's one generic filter for the entire line and another filter for the s2000.
I've seen two different manufacturers of the small filter. Allied Signal(own Fram I believe) and Filtech. Now this new s2000 filter is made by Toyo-Roki(who I've read makes/made Mazda filters also). Who used to make the usdm Honda filters way back when and still do in Japan. And Toyo makes the very nice HAMP brand in Japan.
So what about the new small filter makes it unsuitable for the s2000?
And if you're going to buy one, be careful what they hand you...I've found that the average parts guy is still unaware of the differences(they all look alike).
And to further clarify...the HAMP and s2000 filters ARE identical filters except the color of the case. The price of both can run $5-$10.
A back to back test with oil pressure gauge showed a 5psi increase when switching from the old Fram/Honda to the new Toyo/s2000 filter.
I've "read" this is one of the reasons Honda went to a smaller canister filter: higher, more stable oil pressure. But it's hearsay, if you will. So you guys talking bigger v6 filters might want to look into that. More oil at lower pressure isn't necessarily a good thing.

Third...I address quality and some people have expressed a desire for details. I care about a couple things.
(a) the end caps. Have to be metal, what happens when you soak cardboard with oil? The answer is, not what I want in my oil filter.
(b) bypass valve/anti drainback should be bonded to the assembly, not press fit.
(c) the filter media should be a tight weave...not loose enough to pull fibers off.

So if the s2000 filter works, cool. I have box of HAMP filters. They really are a good quality filter. It probably sounds anal to a lot of people...but if you've cut open a Fram and compared it to something better, you wouldn't be questioning the anal man's decision to pay a little more. The way I flail cars, I need the extra protection.

My choice for $10?
I'd just buy the K&N filter and be done with it.

$7?
I'd try and find a Toyo Roki Mazda or Honda filter. Helps to order something like 1/2 a case at a time, sometimes this will garner a price break.

$5?
Only in a pinch, I'd temporarily use anything but a Fram and change to something better when circumstances allow.

And to note for Fram fans, we're talking about the standard road hazard orange filter. The Doubleguard, X2, Race etc filters have rec'd mixed reviews, depending on application.

Interesting...just looked up K&N filter cross reference. ..all these cars use the same k&n oil filter that the Protege does. I'll bet there is some interchangeability to explore.

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