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stellar_bc April-13th-2005 11:50 PM

MSP engine question
 
aside from the turbo is the Msp engine just the same as a 2.0L protege? or does the msp have different pistons, cams etc? reason i am asking is because there's this used msp at my local dealer and ive been itching to go turbo for the longest time now. i have a pro5 by the way and im wondering if it's better to start modding a msp engine instead of a p5 one.

Roddimus Prime April-13th-2005 11:58 PM

the engines are identical....in all honesty it's better to stick with the regular p5 and buy an aftermarket turbo for more power... if you'd like better handling AND some extra power the MSP is the way to go but there is a much lower power ceiling with the msp.

Projekt Tuner April-20th-2005 04:08 PM

Roddimus.. You sure about that?? I was pretty sure that p5's run 10:1 compression where as my msp runs 9:1...

Roddimus Prime April-20th-2005 05:09 PM

i'm positive, I've owned:

MSP
P5
M3S
RX8
RX7.

they are identical engines.

Projekt Tuner April-21st-2005 08:55 AM

I knew they were same engine name FS... but I coulda sworn I saw our compression was lower.. hmmmmmm ahh okay just searched google.. they're both 9:1

Roddimus Prime April-21st-2005 09:23 AM

sometimes it's ok to trust me!

Phantom Cruiser April-21st-2005 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by Roddimus Prime
sometimes it's ok to trust me!

Trust you? Mazda weirdo ... :cookoo:

I was trying to explain this same concept to the hubby just last night! Perhaps I need to show him this post. He really must love me though (even though I drive slow POSs) because he spent $10 on nuts and bolts for me :bt:

Roddimus Prime April-21st-2005 11:12 AM

Scott doesn't trust me? or you?...$10 for nuts and bolts is nothing. The bolts for my supercharger kits are about $7 a piece and there's 9 of them. Quality costs money!

Phantom Cruiser April-21st-2005 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by Roddimus Prime
Scott doesn't trust me? or you?...$10 for nuts and bolts is nothing. The bolts for my supercharger kits are about $7 a piece and there's 9 of them. Quality costs money!


LOL, me! My header bolts are in pretty bad shape (one is sheared off) so we're replacing them. Plus we got new yellow silicon adapters for the intake and new clamps too...not those cheepie POSs. :bt:

Roddimus Prime April-21st-2005 02:51 PM

very nice!

Phantom Cruiser April-21st-2005 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by Roddimus Prime
very nice!

What can I say...it's the "little things" that keep the love alive :rolleyes:

KrayzieFox April-21st-2005 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by Roddimus Prime
i'm positive, I've owned:

MSP
P5
M3S
RX8
RX7.

they are identical engines.

Wait wait wait ... it just kinda struck me when I read the RX8 part of that, and uhhh I just wanna know why it is that you didn't stick with it instead of going all out on the P5 like you've been doin ...

As far as I know RX8s are badass little cars, unless there's something about them that I'm missing that really makes a difference whether to keep it or not.

Phantom Cruiser April-21st-2005 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by KrayzieFox
Wait wait wait ... it just kinda struck me when I read the RX8 part of that, and uhhh I just wanna know why it is that you didn't stick with it instead of going all out on the P5 like you've been doin ...

As far as I know RX8s are badass little cars, unless there's something about them that I'm missing that really makes a difference whether to keep it or not.


He just got the RX8...traded in the wifey's 3s for it!!

Roddimus Prime April-21st-2005 03:27 PM

WAY OT, but I pick the RX8 up saturday morning....haven't gotten it yet...but close enough.

macdaddyslomo April-21st-2005 04:15 PM

How about this all inclusive statement...ALL North American 3rd Gen Protege's have 9.0 to 1 compression...Period....Read the FAQ

http://web2.airmail.net/theman/protegefaq/


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