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pingdum Apr 17, 2003 01:15 AM


Originally posted by Protege52003
hey Protege5Lava,

can you post some pics of where these ground wires are attached on your protege. Thanks.

-R

Yea I've heard it makes a big difference where they are attached and the path they follow. They say to try a few different locations to get the best results. I am very interested where you attached yours.

dynamho Apr 17, 2003 09:47 AM


Originally posted by obender66
1/4" copper cable is ~2 gauge. It is $3-5/ft-oxidation resistant with chemical and gasoline proof jacket. Go to local car audio store.
Thanks for the info!

So in the same vein, I guess Monster Cables for audio are also a waste of money, huh?

dynamho Apr 17, 2003 10:20 AM


Originally posted by pingdum


Yea I've heard it makes a big difference where they are attached and the path they follow. They say to try a few different locations to get the best results. I am very interested where you attached yours.

What you're refering to as big difference is relatively speaking of course. The difference felt by doing this properly is very very small to begin with anyway. The thing I like best is smoother starts and less hesitation of engine from standstill. I can't confirm about more torque and power. All I can say is the difference feels like putting an intake, which is "just a feeling". Putting on an intake seems to lose some torque at low rpm. Better ground seems to recover this low end torque. Don't come asking me to do a dyno. Some people make it sound like dyno runs are cheap/free. Give me 70 bux and I'll be happy to do it for you.

This is the connection I used. The basic idea is to ground major engine components and chassis without shorting any circuit.

I wanted to ground the engine block (below the cylinder head), but couldn't find a suitable location to bolt the grounding wire to, so I used the body frame near the "Injen Hole".

http://users.rcn.com/enamho1/mazda/hotearth.gif

obender66 Apr 17, 2003 02:50 PM


Originally posted by dynamho


Thanks for the info!

So in the same vein, I guess Monster Cables for audio are also a waste of money, huh?

This is price for Rockford Fosgate cable, not "garden variety" shit
Alex
Edited-Monster cable is $4/ft-Power Flex-Moster calls it the best.

$20/ft is a WASTE of money

MackDaddy Apr 21, 2003 06:35 PM

Home made version "hyperground"
 
Works for me..... FWIW. Did it mostly for improvement in 600 WRMS stereo system, but it seems to help a bit in power delivery as well. And, today was the first time I've seen over 24mpg city/highway driving (back and forth to work, running around, etc.) It seems to have helped fuel economy a bit too! :)

4 gauge JSC oxygen free copper high strand stereo wire (hey, I can get this stuff cheap!) :D

Engine to Chassis

http://images2.fotki.com/v20/photos/...SC00382-vi.jpg

Battery to Chassis

http://images2.fotki.com/v21/photos/...SC00384-vi.jpg

Engine to Battery

http://images2.fotki.com/v21/photos/...SC00385-vi.jpg

Another angle of #3 shot

http://images2.fotki.com/v20/photos/...SC00387-vi.jpg

Tada!

http://images2.fotki.com/v20/photos/...SC00388-vi.jpg

dynamho Apr 21, 2003 06:42 PM

MackDaddy,
Nice clean work on the wiring. Glad it's working for you too.

MackDaddy Apr 21, 2003 06:43 PM

Schwing!
 

Originally posted by dynamho
MackDaddy,
Nice clean work on the wiring. Glad it's working for you too.

Thanks my brother..... gotta look good for Carlisle! :D

arapau Apr 23, 2003 01:47 PM

I dug up some ground cables left over from previous aircraft projects and installed 2 new grounds. One from the battery to engine and one from the other side of engine to existing ground point on right fenderwell. I don't think it's any faster, but it sure feels smoother below 3000 rpm. Price was right and it didn't take long. I think you could use pre fabricated battery cables from any auto parts store.


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