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SirTidus Jun 11, 2003 04:39 PM

idle speed of P-5?
 
What is the idle speed for everyone when the car is warm (after running 5-10km)? I seem to be getting unstable idle speed everytime I start the car 10-20 mins after driven for a couple kms... (e.g. drive from home to shopping mall -> start the car and leave the mall -> unstable idle speed at startup)

What could possibly cause this?

There's also an unreasonable amount of "shake" everytime I press / release the gas pedal... Guess it's time to take the car to dealer :(

Sir Nuke Jun 11, 2003 07:58 PM

to answer your question...it should be about 750 rpm.....

Z me Pro Jun 11, 2003 11:15 PM

isn't it 700? says right under the hood

Redfyre Jun 12, 2003 05:10 AM

According to what it says under the hood, 700 rpm. When I start mine cold it idles high (anywhere from 1700 to 2200 rpm). I think this was a problem with the ECU/PCM (cold weather start rattle). Mazda has since provided an updated code to the dealer and I have had mine reprogrammed. But it has made no noticeable improvement. After the engine is warm the idle speed drops to around 700 rpms.

chikoo Jun 12, 2003 09:13 AM


Originally posted by Redfyre
According to what it says under the hood, 700 rpm. When I start mine cold it idles high (anywhere from 1700 to 2200 rpm). I think this was a problem with the ECU/PCM (cold weather start rattle). Mazda has since provided an updated code to the dealer and I have had mine reprogrammed. But it has made no noticeable improvement. After the engine is warm the idle speed drops to around 700 rpms.
ru crazy?

When the engine is cold, It WILL idle anywhere from 1500 to 2500 rpm. if you sit with the car in P (or N) for about 5 minutes, u will notice that it will drop as the temp of the engine goes up and finally stabilize at 750rpm(in N) and if u put it in D, it will come down to 650-700rpm.

chikoo Jun 12, 2003 09:15 AM

Re: idle speed of P-5?
 

Originally posted by SirTidus
What is the idle speed for everyone when the car is warm (after running 5-10km)? I seem to be getting unstable idle speed everytime I start the car 10-20 mins after driven for a couple kms... (e.g. drive from home to shopping mall -> start the car and leave the mall -> unstable idle speed at startup)

What could possibly cause this?

There's also an unreasonable amount of "shake" everytime I press / release the gas pedal... Guess it's time to take the car to dealer :(

can u describe it better?

1. after u start the car , if u let it sit in N, what does the tach say?

2. in addition if u switch on the headlights, does it change? how much?

SirTidus Jun 12, 2003 11:06 AM

Re: Re: idle speed of P-5?
 

Originally posted by chikoo


can u describe it better?

1. after u start the car , if u let it sit in N, what does the tach say?
when the engine is warm, it would be hovering around 400-500rpm. (mine is manual, btw)

2. in addition if u switch on the headlights, does it change? how much?

it would move a little bit, but still be around 400-500 range.

chikoo Jun 12, 2003 02:20 PM

Re: Re: Re: idle speed of P-5?
 

Originally posted by SirTidus

it would move a little bit, but still be around 400-500 range.

so what is erratic about it?

it is a diff. issue that the speed should be ~750rpm, and not 500 rpm.

what happens if you turn on the A/C ?

SirTidus Jun 12, 2003 02:30 PM

the issue is that after the engine is warmed up and I stop the car for 15-20 mins then start the car again, the car would be hard to start sometimes and the taco needle would drop to almost close to 0 before going back up to 400-500. After that the needle would still go up and down abit (~200-500) and the engine feels like almost dying...

this doesn't happen on cold starts

and another issue is that my car is shaking everytime I press/release the gas pendal. if I step on the gas real hard and fast, the car would appear hopping!!

Redfyre Jun 12, 2003 04:54 PM


Originally posted by chikoo


ru crazy?

When the engine is cold, It WILL idle anywhere from 1500 to 2500 rpm. if you sit with the car in P (or N) for about 5 minutes, u will notice that it will drop as the temp of the engine goes up and finally stabilize at 750rpm(in N) and if u put it in D, it will come down to 650-700rpm.


Thanks for sorting me out there chikoo. But it seems to take a long time for my rpms to drop even when starting from 20-30 degree temperatures. Also, I noticed on my sister's civic and my brother's sentra and my fiance's mustang that their tachs drop within a minute or so of starting their cars, even in the cold.

chikoo Jun 19, 2003 01:13 PM


Originally posted by Redfyre



Thanks for sorting me out there chikoo. But it seems to take a long time for my rpms to drop even when starting from 20-30 degree temperatures. Also, I noticed on my sister's civic and my brother's sentra and my fiance's mustang that their tachs drop within a minute or so of starting their cars, even in the cold.

The protege is quite different than other cars out there. LEarnt that after similar comparisons. ;)


Originally posted by SirTidus
the issue is that after the engine is warmed up and I stop the car for 15-20 mins then start the car again, the car would be hard to start sometimes and the taco needle would drop to almost close to 0 before going back up to 400-500. After that the needle would still go up and down abit (~200-500) and the engine feels like almost dying...

this doesn't happen on cold starts

and another issue is that my car is shaking everytime I press/release the gas pendal. if I step on the gas real hard and fast, the car would appear hopping!!

Hey, 3 reasons for that

1. Did u or anyone ever mess with the idle speed setting?
2. Faulty MAF
3. Leaky intake manifold gasket

I say this, 'cause I went thru this.


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