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JAC October-18th-2002 03:11 PM

CAI, how dangerous is it really?
 
I'm considering getting an Injen CAI for my 1.6l but I'm afraid of the "hydrolocking the engine" issue, is it a 1 in a million type of thing?

Arghman October-18th-2002 03:42 PM

I was talking to a guy from K&N that is developing all the CAI systems and he was telling me about that. He said unless you completely submerge your intake and you're pushing your engine pretty hard, you won't hydrolock.

protetype October-18th-2002 03:43 PM

like i always say.. just use common sense. if it looks deep enough to cause a problem, don't drive through it. if it's pouring rain that's flooding the streets, don't go out, or pull over in a parking lot and wait it out. there's always the bypass method, which i don't care for.. but a lot of people say it works. i've run my 1.6 with the injen cai through flooding water, and i don't have a hydrolocked engine. don't go flying down the street at WOT in a lot of water... your engine 'sucks'.. if its only sucking a little.. it's not gonna pull in water. if you're sitting at WOT, sure it's gonna eventually suck something up there sittin in a damn puddle. ;D just be careful.

Dermen October-18th-2002 10:40 PM

Have you thought about the AEM. Its a short ram intake and is higher up in the engine bay so it should have a lot less of a chance of sucking in water. I don't know the HP gains but a lot of people on this board have said that they are the same. But the CAI does look better.

protetype October-19th-2002 07:20 AM


Originally posted by Dermen
Have you thought about the AEM. Its a short ram intake and is higher up in the engine bay so it should have a lot less of a chance of sucking in water. I don't know the HP gains but a lot of people on this board have said that they are the same. But the CAI does look better.
this is for a 1.6l. AEM doesn't make an intake for the 1.6.

java2flavor October-19th-2002 12:57 PM

CAI
 
Don't know about everyone else, but my car has a little cover in the wheel well section where the filter is located. The water would have to go through that and then go through the CAI in order for water to get into the engine. Unless I submerge my car THAT deep (which then the exhaust will suck in water first) into the water, I don't think water getting into the CAI is much of an issue. I don't use a bypass valve.

JAC October-19th-2002 03:40 PM

I hate this type of decisions...:o

Dermen October-19th-2002 07:54 PM


Originally posted by protetype
this is for a 1.6l. AEM doesn't make an intake for the 1.6.
Oops. Sorry about that, I must have skipped over the 1.6l part or it slipped my mind.

protetype October-19th-2002 09:20 PM


Originally posted by TheMAN
Here's a cheaper way to do it...

See that hacksaw in the toolbox? Grab it
Saw off lower extension of your CAI
Reinstall filter

Result? You get the same thing as the by-pass valve. Same power, same effect.

Like to get ripped off? Feel free to run out to the store and get that by-pass valve.


ah, this reminds me... the first time i had the injen CAI, which someone else has now since I sold it on E-bay. I did this the first time due to winter and water. Nevermind the filter on it, the normal Injen filter will work.. but I cut my intake off and made it a shorty so all I needed was another piece of straight rubber hose to put the two pieces back together to make CA again. it worked fine, and still had that cool sound everyone likes so much. :) didn't notice too much of a difference in power.

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JAC October-21st-2002 12:42 PM

Ok, I have another question. Is the engine bay from the sedan the same as the one in the P5? cuz as you all know my car is a hatchback. I want to know if the CAI designed for the 1.6l will fit my car.

java2flavor October-25th-2002 03:14 AM

Blow, suck ... sexually they mean the same! LOL.
 
Sorry, I didn't post it right. Didn't mean to say that exhausts actually sucks in water. I did want to say something like water would "get in" to the exhaust....

Would it damage the car in any way if water like that flooded through the tail pipe?


Originally posted by TheMAN
Exhausts don't suck, they blow.
Intakes suck.

If you are not stepping on the throttle while your car is in deep water and the motor is running, the exhaust pressure will not be enough to overcome the water pressure and water will go into the tail pipe. If you have a CAI thats located very low, then you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't.


JAC October-25th-2002 01:44 PM

I still haven't decided if I should get the injen or not (f*cking up my engine is a very scary thought), I'm thinking about getting the K&N air filter, does it make a diference?


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