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johnaks36 June-15th-2004 12:23 PM

Aluminum Flywheel
 
Has anyone installed an aluminum flywheel on their 3rd gen. What kind would you recommend and what whp increase should i expect.

FC3s Boy June-15th-2004 03:14 PM

you get back lost HP that was used to push the heavier stock fylwheel, the motor will wind out quicker and free's up 5-7hp

Racing Beat June-16th-2004 08:42 AM

who sells good ones?

Topher June-16th-2004 09:58 AM

www.protegegarage.com

i've got the UR flywheel sitting at home waiting on $$ to install it. i also bought the ACT Street Performance clutch.

it's 9lbs...stock is 18lbs.

Roddimus Prime June-16th-2004 10:11 AM

Chris, I tries to install it for you this weekend! Someone just wouldn't return my emails!

macdaddyslomo June-16th-2004 12:15 PM

I don't know how beneficial a lightweight flywheel will be for street driving though...makes it hard to keep the revs up in between shifts....

johnaks36 June-16th-2004 12:41 PM

I was thinking about getting a fidanza aluminum flywheel. I have heard good things about it and also i was planning on getting a spec stage 1 clutch with it. I dont think the daily drivability would be affected that much by getting these two things. I also was wondering if anyone installed pulleys on their 3 gen and what the results were.

Roddimus Prime June-16th-2004 09:58 PM

dropping the flywheel weight by half is a BIG difference. I lowered my SHO's flywheel from 13# to 11# and it was noticeable. I had to re-learn it for a few miles. Imagine cutting 9#'s off a flywheel!! I'll drive Topher's and see how it turns out though!

Topher June-17th-2004 07:25 AM


Originally posted by johnaks36
I was thinking about getting a fidanza aluminum flywheel. I have heard good things about it and also i was planning on getting a spec stage 1 clutch with it. I dont think the daily drivability would be affected that much by getting these two things. I also was wondering if anyone installed pulleys on their 3 gen and what the results were.

i have unorthodox racing's underdrive pulley on my car...good investment.

Topher June-17th-2004 07:26 AM


Originally posted by Roddimus Prime
dropping the flywheel weight by half is a BIG difference. I lowered my SHO's flywheel from 13# to 11# and it was noticeable. I had to re-learn it for a few miles. Imagine cutting 9#'s off a flywheel!! I'll drive Topher's and see how it turns out though!
i take it you just want to drive a fast p5? i understand.

Roddimus Prime June-17th-2004 07:55 AM

hahha, I want to compare the difference in 2 fast cars....yours, where someone spends a butt-load of money making it faster...and mine, where my superb driving skill maximizes the mostly stock vehicle!!

Topher June-17th-2004 08:01 AM

i haven't spent a butt-load of money on my car...it's 99% stock...don't hate me for being one hell of a driver.

Racing Beat June-17th-2004 09:19 AM

LOL...auto-x challenge!

juddz June-18th-2004 07:33 AM

Question about aluminum flywheels - isn't there more opportunity for wear, since aluminum is a softer metal than steel (and I presume on Proteges that the clutch disc rubs on it to engage)? Also, if the starter motor engages with teeth on the outer perimeter of the flywheel, there is another opportunity for wear - and there isn't any lubrication. In a nutshell, is this a 100,000 mile part?

To answer the question about pulleys, I put an Unorthodox Racing unit on mine, and yes it is a noticeable difference - but not stunningly so. However, by the time you get the belts and everything, you are looking at 250 bucks. Why not use the money to buy a header instead, which will give you more bang for your buck?

ProtoJ June-18th-2004 09:38 AM


Originally posted by juddz
Question about aluminum flywheels - isn't there more opportunity for wear, since aluminum is a softer metal than steel (and I presume on Proteges that the clutch disc rubs on it to engage)? Also, if the starter motor engages with teeth on the outer perimeter of the flywheel, there is another opportunity for wear - and there isn't any lubrication. In a nutshell, is this a 100,000 mile part?

To answer the question about pulleys, I put an Unorthodox Racing unit on mine, and yes it is a noticeable difference - but not stunningly so. However, by the time you get the belts and everything, you are looking at 250 bucks. Why not use the money to buy a header instead, which will give you more bang for your buck?

First off, Wear is not an issue. The aluminum FW's have a steel insert were the friction disc contacts the FW, and the ring rear is also made of steel. The only thing is that the Aluminum FW, if it is abused, will start to warp sooner than the cast iron. There are other failure modes, but for the most part early wearout is not one of them.

Also just as an FYI... I don't like the Aluminum FW from Fidanza. I actually had mine taken back out and put my stock one back in. I had the chance to try out the Fidanza flywheel with a clutch that is being produced by the company that I work for. Clutch is great, but I hated the FW. The RPM's drop off too quick between shifts. I was warned about that before it went in but I wanted to see for myself. Rember this is just my opinion.


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