KL-ZE conversion?
 

Has anyone had this done? I found a place that will do the whole swap for $4300cnd. ( ~~$2700US ) for parts and labor. It seems to me like a good price for everything, especially for a 200HP V6. What do you guys think?

What would be an estimate for a BPT swap... everything including labor? (I don't trust myself with an engine swap).

the BPT swap will be a bit cheaper....but more tuning involved...the V6 is practically a 14 sec drop in.

I'm kinda leaning towards the v6 approach to tell you the truth. Reliability is a big part of it. Even though it will be a lot harder to coax power out of a n/a engine as opposed to turbo/supercharged, ~200HP is A LOT to be putting in such a small car in the first place.

I think I'm going to contact that place to make sure their currency is in CND, not US! $4300 would be a bit much for everything! Thanks for replying.

good luck Dan, that 323 will be a rocket with the V6!

Zoom Zoom Zoom! :blue:

i felt i should post this here rather than create yet another thread.....it's not really directed towards you Dan, but it's still may be an option for you, as they do ship. But i think you can find a better price.

found this link on a yahoo list...Street Imports has the KLZE for $1299 (ya a bit much...BUT they list 3 tranny types....auto, 5sp and 5sp w/LSD!!!!!! this is $900 more, but hell it's an LSD!!!!!! can't get one for less than $1200 from Quaife, nice to get both tranny and LSD for 9 bills.....


Street Imports

Oh, just to re-iterate...the V6 swap consists of more than just an engine...

tranny, ECU, front suspension, front brakes and a few other goodies...i posted a complete list in another thread....

As for it being a 14 sec drop-in, I guess that depends. I know there's a guy on the net with a black Pro that does a fastest of 14.17, but there's one around here in Montreal who's best time was 15.7something... Driver/install/engine condition related I'm sure, but 15.7 is crap for a 200hp Protege!

This is to much money, A-spec in toronto can do that job for 4000$ including the suspension and brakes from the MX-6

Trac Racing in Monteal can do the swap for around 3200$ but they don't include the suspension and brakes.

Darryl, thanks for the info, that's a freaking deal! The engine+tranny(lsd) is only a little bit more expensive than corksport is asking for the engine and ecu alone! LSD would definately help put all that power to the ground, especially in such a light car.

White1stGen - That price of $4300 includes the mx-6 suspension/brakes, etc.

Bizob - with a bit of practice and a LSD, it IS a 14sec drop-in for me! A-SPEC has a 323 of the same year, etc. and with the KL-03 (170 hp) it ran a best of 13.9 on street tires... I think it probably had exhaust work, too... But it would be more of a task to run that with a pro... I don't know how much more they weigh.

Thanks for all the info, guys... So what I'm looking at so far is Engine, ECU, tranny, brakes, suspension... What else would I need? Plus, how hard would this be to do by myself... I haven't done anything like this before. Would it be worth it just to take it somewhere and get it done? Gotta learn somewhere, though! hehehe...

Thanks again!

I'm just assuming, but I would be suprised if a V6 fits on the same mounting brackets as the BP...

If you're REALLY good at welding, you might be able to do it... Otherwise, try and find out if there's a company that makes adaptors or something...

If you really want to do it yourself, make sure you find out where everything goes and mark EVERYTHING you touch so you know what it is and where it goes. Still a V6 swap would be an impressive backyard mechanic feat!

Hope you pull it off!!!

i am 99.9% sure the V6 is a straight drop in, motor mounts line up and everything. It's tight and it fits snug.

If you have a few friends and atleast one has some prior knowledge of things, then i'd say, sure, it's doable by yourself. MIght take a few days, but definetly do-able. Maybe invest in a Haynes manual for the MX6 or MX3 (whichever you get the other parts from) but it's basically the same stuff, as it bolts right up anyway....

Would also be a good time to swap in a new sway bar and lower tie bar.

Really?! Damn that's cool. Why did'nt Mazda ever make it? A Pro with a V6 stock would be nuts... THey coulda made a sport luxury model with leather and stuff.... Plus that would have made the V6 swap street legal...

I heard that the 2.5l fits almost bolt on but that the v6 from the mx-3 is alot of work to swap and since it'a not a really good engine I wouldn't do it.

That place with the KLZE swap
 

Yes it is 4300 for the KLZE swap..

the website is A-SPEC... which is where i always get my stuff done..

www.a-spec.ca

Tell steve or paul that Ed sent ya..

The KLZE is getting really difficult to get... from what i was told..

But 4300 is a hellavu deal!!!...

ED

Now I have a new question... Since I have to get new axles, suspension, and brakes from a mx-6 for this swap, will I end up with 5-lug in the front and still have 4 lug in the rear??? Maybe I'm thinking crazy, but swapping all those parts in the front would normally change that, no?

If you grab the rotors off of an MX3 you can stay 4 lug. I am not sure if the MX6/626 rear rotors are a swap part or not...

Another bump ...

Since the topic of V6 swap has come up lately, how about adding some current info related to that here?

Well since the third gen was barely even around at the time this thread was made, and everyone was still in the shock and awe stage about how friggin godly the FS-DE was (lol), I'll add this:

It has been done in the third gens.. numerous times. You can even use your stock tranny internals, just gotta swap the bellhousing. Things bolt right up, but the ECU/wiring is a pain since everything is ECU controlled in the 3rd gen basically.

I don't think anyone in the states has done it though, it's all people from Quebec doing it. There's a shop that I think will do the whole swap for $5k.

Hey guys haven't posted in a while but i thought i would add my 2 cents seeing as i have done this swap twice into a 323 and a protege, the parts that you need are as followed:
-MX-3/MX-6 tranny (or the ford probe seeing as its the same car)
-MX-3 engine wiring harnes and ecu if you choose(i went with the kl-03 ecu)
-MX-3 driveshafts
-MX-3 motormounts (the stock mounts do not work already tried)
-MX-3 alternator/power steering pump and A/C compressor if you choose so
-MX-3 fuel pump
-MX-3 crossmember
-MX-3 or MX-6 intake manifold truthfully the MX-6/probe maifold flows better(this is only needed if you go with the JDM V6)
pretty much find a mx-3 donnar car

as for needing to change suspension the answer is NO YOU DONT HAVE TO also using the MX-6 suspsension will not work either if you want you can use the mx-3 rotors for a bigger break set up remember all the parts need with be a MX-3 see as the engine bays are similar, trust me its a great set up and very fast the engine i went with was the KF-ZE (jdm version of the KL-03) has 170hp and 160ft of torque just runs a higher compression. Now also remember depending on what engine you go with (this is for those looking at the KL-ZE JDM motor) you will need to change the intake manifold the KL-ZE manifold setup has a longer extension on the TB which hits the brake master cylinder. As for fit it is a snug fit but trust me it does fit and is truly a great sleeper hope this helps any questions feel free to ask the swap is truly quick with all the parts that i listed i did mine in a day