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superdave September-19th-2002 04:02 PM

Auto to Manual How-to??
 
Awhile back I remember reading a post on an escort board (which one I don't know.. I don't even know the addy to any of them) about what parts are required to change an escort/protege from an automatic to manual. It was linked off a post on this board somewhere. After over an hour of searching here, I've given up. Anyone else remember reading this? Happen to have a link or even a copy of that thread? Thanks for any help guys.

BTW I even looked for a how-to here, but everyone always tells the person to sell there auto protege and buy a manual :p

protejay September-19th-2002 05:06 PM

hey superdave!... look at the last post for the link:

http://www.protegeclub.com/forum/sho...highlight=auto

oregano September-19th-2002 05:12 PM

it shouldn't be to hard. my neighbor converted his civic to a manuel for only $1500 CAN. all you need is: tranny, shift linkage, shifter mount assembly, clutch, clutch linkage(hydraulic or cable, depends on car), clutch pedal, brake pedal(automatic one too big), clutch master cylinder if clutch linkage is hydraulic. whewh!
also, you will need to remove your gear indicator lights, and check engine light because they will constantly be on. im not sure how to hook up the reverse lights but it can be done. finally, there is a sliding tab in a runner where the automatic shifter hooks up. this tells the tranny what gear to go to. make sure you leave this in tact, and put the tab into the park position, or else your car will not start. my neighbors mechanic did all this with him for not to much money. the biggest problem was the brake pedal, hydraulic clutch linkage(bunch of metal lines in engine bay) and installing the shifter and mount( had to drill out spot welding). definately worth it too. as long as you can find a good tranny for cheap, definatly go for it man.

superdave September-19th-2002 06:37 PM


Originally posted by protejay
hey superdave!... look at the last post for the link:

http://www.protegeclub.com/forum/sho...highlight=auto

THANK YOU! I searched for so long but couldn't find that! ARG! :bt:

superdave September-19th-2002 06:41 PM


Originally posted by oregano
it shouldn't be to hard. my neighbor converted his civic to a manuel for only $1500 CAN. all you need is: tranny, shift linkage, shifter mount assembly, clutch, clutch linkage(hydraulic or cable, depends on car), clutch pedal, brake pedal(automatic one too big), clutch master cylinder if clutch linkage is hydraulic. whewh!
also, you will need to remove your gear indicator lights, and check engine light because they will constantly be on. im not sure how to hook up the reverse lights but it can be done. finally, there is a sliding tab in a runner where the automatic shifter hooks up. this tells the tranny what gear to go to. make sure you leave this in tact, and put the tab into the park position, or else your car will not start. my neighbors mechanic did all this with him for not to much money. the biggest problem was the brake pedal, hydraulic clutch linkage(bunch of metal lines in engine bay) and installing the shifter and mount( had to drill out spot welding). definately worth it too. as long as you can find a good tranny for cheap, definatly go for it man.

I'm not planning to do the swap myself. If its done the complte engine harness, engine/tranny, ecu etc will be out of the car... so the swap would be complete.. no left over auto tranny parts to rig up (like leaving it in park).
Thanks for the input!

irish6714 September-19th-2002 06:46 PM

Do it the right way, buy a 5 speed.

superdave September-19th-2002 06:51 PM


Originally posted by irish6714
Do it the right way, buy a 5 speed.
:rolleyes:

The 323 that might have this done to it is already gonna have an engine and tranny swap, even if it wasn't an auto. The auto just adds a few more hours of work in the swap.

/edit: AND I have a -complete- 5sp 1.8DOHC parts car, that will have every single component needed to do the swap. It won't make the cost be that much more either.

irish6714 September-19th-2002 08:15 PM

just a dumd question, why?

superdave September-19th-2002 10:33 PM


Originally posted by irish6714
just a dumd question, why?
Mazda 323 with the B6 engine (1.6L DOHC) and dropping in a BP (1.8L DOHC). So going from 82hp & 92lbs/ft of torque to 125hp & 114lbs/ft of torque. The plan would be to upgrade to the G5M-R tranny anyway even if it was a 5spd 323 (F25M-R), but as it turns out its an auto (F4A-EL) so it just means changing a few more parts while the swap is being done... Its already gonna have the engine, tranny, harness, axles, ecu, etc changed... whats a few more parts while the rest of that stuff is outta the way...?


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