ran a 92 accord
June-23rd-2003, 02:01 PM
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ran a 92 accord
i had the better launch
1st and 2nd i was ahead but not putting any more distance on him. at the end of 3rd he caught up to me and passed me
shut down begining of 4th
the SOHC is gutless highend =P
1st and 2nd i was ahead but not putting any more distance on him. at the end of 3rd he caught up to me and passed me
shut down begining of 4th
the SOHC is gutless highend =P
June-24th-2003, 12:56 AM
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are you driving an auto? what were the mods? because i've raped the **** out of an a 90-93ish suped up accord with a fart can and cute little stickers while i had a fat passenger in my car and still made the tires squeak at the shift to second. dont doubt the sohc, theyre still ambitious, running under a second difference in the 1/4 mile time as the LX folk. the lx is approximately 100 lbs heavier @ 114 ft. lbs. of torque as the dx is 100 lbs less with 111 ft. pounds of torque. if you looked in my recent post, i stated, and i'll recite it again, dont get brainwashed by horsepower. what they tell you is hp at the flywheel-not at the wheels. torque=throttle response/acceleration. balance that with the gross vehicle weight. you do the math. shift AT redline and keep the needle at the beginning of each shift between 4,000 rpm (max torque range) and redline. which means NO GRANNY SHIFTING! so find that piece of **** and show him how its done. just make sure its on a straightaway cuz the suspension on these machines are like skateboards.
June-24th-2003, 07:54 AM
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I'm not sure if you're reffering to me or ALI VEGAS. In my accord I currently have NGK platinum plugs, Magnecor wires and a CAI.
I think V-TEC wasn't introduced in the Accord till 1994 and later. Although it's still a SOHC, it's still a big difference
I think V-TEC wasn't introduced in the Accord till 1994 and later. Although it's still a SOHC, it's still a big difference
June-25th-2003, 09:10 AM
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i did shift just below the rev limiter, i had the better launch and 1st and 2nd i was ahead. just that the car is gutless in 3rd.
i have the canadian version of the lx which is fully loaded minus the a/c
the car has 270,000 km with a leaking valve cover.
i was running on 1/4 tank and i'm a pretty light guy.
i put synthetic oil in the proteghay, but the wires and plugs, not sure how long its been on there, at least 7,000 km's that i've been driving it. plus my exhaust is full of holes.
i have the canadian version of the lx which is fully loaded minus the a/c
the car has 270,000 km with a leaking valve cover.
i was running on 1/4 tank and i'm a pretty light guy.
i put synthetic oil in the proteghay, but the wires and plugs, not sure how long its been on there, at least 7,000 km's that i've been driving it. plus my exhaust is full of holes.
June-25th-2003, 09:34 PM
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Originally posted by project626
I think V-TEC wasn't introduced in the Accord till 1994 and later. Although it's still a SOHC, it's still a big difference
I think V-TEC wasn't introduced in the Accord till 1994 and later. Although it's still a SOHC, it's still a big difference
just bring it to my celica, its like putting a pit bull up to a poodle. speeding kills. save a life. drive a honda.
xs engineering turbo and intercooler, apexi wastegate and blowoff valve, trial body kit with TRD rear wing & air deflectors, shaved door handles, a'pexi muffler/HKS exhaust piping, injen air intake, TRD 12.0 front big rotors, carbon fiber hood, TRD lightweight flywheel, TRD coilovers, eibach anti roll bar kit, B&M short shifter, trial performance header. theres more. still in the shop. the cv boot tore and the driveaxle was frigged and theres transmission fluid everywhere. the carnage...but nothing compared to how it will make the accord look like its in reverse.
June-25th-2003, 10:25 PM
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Originally posted by aZnRicer
yea. a big difference in gas mileage. as for horsepower...
just bring it to my celica, its like putting a pit bull up to a poodle. speeding kills. save a life. drive a honda.
xs engineering turbo and intercooler, apexi wastegate and blowoff valve, trial body kit with TRD rear wing & air deflectors, shaved door handles, a'pexi muffler/HKS exhaust piping, injen air intake, TRD 12.0 front big rotors, carbon fiber hood, TRD lightweight flywheel, TRD coilovers, eibach anti roll bar kit, B&M short shifter, trial performance header. theres more. still in the shop. the cv boot tore and the driveaxle was frigged and theres transmission fluid everywhere. the carnage...but nothing compared to how it will make the accord look like its in reverse.
yea. a big difference in gas mileage. as for horsepower...
just bring it to my celica, its like putting a pit bull up to a poodle. speeding kills. save a life. drive a honda.
xs engineering turbo and intercooler, apexi wastegate and blowoff valve, trial body kit with TRD rear wing & air deflectors, shaved door handles, a'pexi muffler/HKS exhaust piping, injen air intake, TRD 12.0 front big rotors, carbon fiber hood, TRD lightweight flywheel, TRD coilovers, eibach anti roll bar kit, B&M short shifter, trial performance header. theres more. still in the shop. the cv boot tore and the driveaxle was frigged and theres transmission fluid everywhere. the carnage...but nothing compared to how it will make the accord look like its in reverse.
June-25th-2003, 11:53 PM
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Originally posted by sweetprotege93
Got any pics? Track times? Whp & Trq #s? Just curious... cause it sounds like a hell of a car!
Got any pics? Track times? Whp & Trq #s? Just curious... cause it sounds like a hell of a car!
front engine front wheel drive forced induction 1/4 mile time: 13.14 sec @ 106 mph (official document and picture of billboard at finish line available, just e-mail me pinoyIam@aol.com or AIM: TaiMaiShu0k.)
best 0-60 time: 6.180 sec. - 6.5 average
estimated whp: 260
torque: 237
when its out of the shop and im finished being paranoid with driving it ever again i'll take it to the speedbowl again and take on the slalom.
June-26th-2003, 11:18 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by aZnRicer
[B]
yea. a big difference in gas mileage. as for horsepower...
just bring it to my celica, its like putting a pit bull up to a poodle. speeding kills. save a life. drive a honda.[QUOTE]
Obviously, you don't know much about V-TEC.
Although I would prefer DOHC to SOHC anytime
Now when you compare stock to modified, of course the stock car would get raped. But, when you compare stock to stock or modified to modified then you have more of a fair race.
Tell me one car (other than the Supra & TRD Solara
) that Toyota makes that a Honda can't out perform.
Just to bring you up to speed on V-TEC engines, here's a link that should answer any questions you have.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/framed...tec/index.html
[B]
yea. a big difference in gas mileage. as for horsepower...
just bring it to my celica, its like putting a pit bull up to a poodle. speeding kills. save a life. drive a honda.[QUOTE]
Obviously, you don't know much about V-TEC.
Although I would prefer DOHC to SOHC anytime
Now when you compare stock to modified, of course the stock car would get raped. But, when you compare stock to stock or modified to modified then you have more of a fair race.
Tell me one car (other than the Supra & TRD Solara
) that Toyota makes that a Honda can't out perform.Just to bring you up to speed on V-TEC engines, here's a link that should answer any questions you have.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/framed...tec/index.html
June-26th-2003, 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by aZnRicer
yea. a big difference in gas mileage. as for horsepower...
just bring it to my celica, its like putting a pit bull up to a poodle. speeding kills. save a life. drive a honda.
xs engineering turbo and intercooler, apexi wastegate and blowoff valve, trial body kit with TRD rear wing & air deflectors, shaved door handles, a'pexi muffler/HKS exhaust piping, injen air intake, TRD 12.0 front big rotors, carbon fiber hood, TRD lightweight flywheel, TRD coilovers, eibach anti roll bar kit, B&M short shifter, trial performance header. theres more. still in the shop. the cv boot tore and the driveaxle was frigged and theres transmission fluid everywhere. the carnage...but nothing compared to how it will make the accord look like its in reverse.
yea. a big difference in gas mileage. as for horsepower...
just bring it to my celica, its like putting a pit bull up to a poodle. speeding kills. save a life. drive a honda.
xs engineering turbo and intercooler, apexi wastegate and blowoff valve, trial body kit with TRD rear wing & air deflectors, shaved door handles, a'pexi muffler/HKS exhaust piping, injen air intake, TRD 12.0 front big rotors, carbon fiber hood, TRD lightweight flywheel, TRD coilovers, eibach anti roll bar kit, B&M short shifter, trial performance header. theres more. still in the shop. the cv boot tore and the driveaxle was frigged and theres transmission fluid everywhere. the carnage...but nothing compared to how it will make the accord look like its in reverse.
that is prob the most pointless and ignorant post i've read how are you comparing a from what you claim heavlily modified celica to a stock accord?
by the way what year is the celica? because celicas in my opinon are garbage stock i destroyed a 2002 gts in my 97' auto altima and his car was stick he could not catch me for crap then i beat another 02 gt same thing i wasn't even trying and when we got to the light and slowed down i asked him if he was trying (cuz the guy was a friend of mine) and he said yeah he had his foot to the floor and couldn't catch it
now seeing as how altimas and accords are in pretty much the same catagory i'd say an accord would beat the crap out of a stock celica especially if its stick and a celica would not make an accord look like it in reverse unless your talking about the 1st gen base accord then yeah maybe but a brand new one i don't think so.
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June-26th-2003, 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by THAPRO1
that is prob the most pointless and ignorant post i've read how are you comparing a from what you claim heavlily modified celica to a stock accord?
by the way what year is the celica? because celicas in my opinon are garbage stock i destroyed a 2002 gts in my 97' auto altima and his car was stick he could not catch me for crap then i beat another 02 gt same thing i wasn't even trying and when we got to the light and slowed down i asked him if he was trying (cuz the guy was a friend of mine) and he said yeah he had his foot to the floor and couldn't catch it
now seeing as how altimas and accords are in pretty much the same catagory i'd say an accord would beat the crap out of a stock celica especially if its stick and a celica would not make an accord look like it in reverse unless your talking about the 1st gen base accord then yeah maybe but a brand new one i don't think so.
that is prob the most pointless and ignorant post i've read how are you comparing a from what you claim heavlily modified celica to a stock accord?
by the way what year is the celica? because celicas in my opinon are garbage stock i destroyed a 2002 gts in my 97' auto altima and his car was stick he could not catch me for crap then i beat another 02 gt same thing i wasn't even trying and when we got to the light and slowed down i asked him if he was trying (cuz the guy was a friend of mine) and he said yeah he had his foot to the floor and couldn't catch it
now seeing as how altimas and accords are in pretty much the same catagory i'd say an accord would beat the crap out of a stock celica especially if its stick and a celica would not make an accord look like it in reverse unless your talking about the 1st gen base accord then yeah maybe but a brand new one i don't think so.
Actually, a better comparison would be a Celica GT vs. a Civic EX or the Celica GTS vs. an Integra Type R or Acura RSX type-S
June-26th-2003, 04:11 PM
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At this place that I used to do some temporary work , there was a guy there with a celica , 01 i think, and he had some 17" gt-8's and he said it was wack and slow ... Ofcourse he was always trying to catch up to a auto 240 or 200 sx .. the sileighty looking one ...
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June-26th-2003, 10:20 PM
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Ofcourse he was always trying to catch up to a auto 240 or 200 sx .. the sileighty looking one ...
altima\ 240sx =ka24de engine, except the 240's even quicker, more power i belive 157? to the altimas 150 and it weighs less so theres no way he'd ever catch one
June-26th-2003, 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by project626
I agree 100%.
Actually, a better comparison would be a Celica GT vs. a Civic EX or the Celica GTS vs. an Integra Type R or Acura RSX type-S
I agree 100%.
Actually, a better comparison would be a Celica GT vs. a Civic EX or the Celica GTS vs. an Integra Type R or Acura RSX type-S
i mean that guy in the gts couldn't catch my altima and its BONE stock the only aftermarket thing it has is a pioneer deck and some clarion speakers integras are WAY faster i got beat by a 2nd gen integra so theres no way a celica could keep up i'd put a gts against maybe another celica....lol
me and my brother have a joke which is kinda pointless but we always say that toyotas have differen't ways of counting horsepower because it seems like they claim to have the same numbers as other people but they are so slow i mean 180 toyota horsepower is like 130 hp in any other car i mean if the celica gts has 180 hp why is it getting beat(WHOOOOOPED) by an 150 hp family sedan?........dumb but thats how it seems and like was mentioned before toyota doesn't really make any other car that can out perform a honda except the supra imo not that i don't like toyotas i do but unless its a supra they imo just don't seem worth the money to try and make fast their great show cars tho
June-27th-2003, 01:19 AM
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i have yet to see a type r "annihilate" a celica gt-s. theyre almost identical (180 hp 2,500 lb 140 tq celica vs. 195 hp 2,639 lb 130 tq type r) they'd most likely meet each other at the finish line at the same time. check your sources before you talk ****.
toyotas VVTL-i (variable valve timing with lift intelligence) is more advanced than v-tech and WILL outperform any honda with the s2000 being an exception. using VVT technology, it's easy to get around 100hp per litre. v-tec technology found in the 2002 honda civic si alters only when the intake valve opens and closes throughout the rpm range, using just one camshaft profile whereas the vvtl-i builds on this with the use of two camshaft profiles — one for low- and mid-range rpm operation and another for the high-rpm range. The high-rpm cam starts at about 6,000 rpm. after redlining, and not even quick shifting, even below 4,000 rpms where you expect flat throttle response from the DOHC v-tec folk, you still get pull from vvtl-i.
i know what i'm saying when i say v-tec was produced mainly to save gas. **** on civics. honda should be ashamed.
as for the altima, don't get me started. they're caskets on wheels and they ARE family cars and thats their purpose. nissan should turn them into station wagons. i've had altimas their asses handed to em. and no, they arent lighter einstein. its almost 500 lbs heavier and theres no god dam way you would have even beaten your friend even if your altima was a stick shift. dont make up **** to spite the celica. go back to watchin fast n furious.
toyotas VVTL-i (variable valve timing with lift intelligence) is more advanced than v-tech and WILL outperform any honda with the s2000 being an exception. using VVT technology, it's easy to get around 100hp per litre. v-tec technology found in the 2002 honda civic si alters only when the intake valve opens and closes throughout the rpm range, using just one camshaft profile whereas the vvtl-i builds on this with the use of two camshaft profiles — one for low- and mid-range rpm operation and another for the high-rpm range. The high-rpm cam starts at about 6,000 rpm. after redlining, and not even quick shifting, even below 4,000 rpms where you expect flat throttle response from the DOHC v-tec folk, you still get pull from vvtl-i.
i know what i'm saying when i say v-tec was produced mainly to save gas. **** on civics. honda should be ashamed.
as for the altima, don't get me started. they're caskets on wheels and they ARE family cars and thats their purpose. nissan should turn them into station wagons. i've had altimas their asses handed to em. and no, they arent lighter einstein. its almost 500 lbs heavier and theres no god dam way you would have even beaten your friend even if your altima was a stick shift. dont make up **** to spite the celica. go back to watchin fast n furious.